Ok a few hours of reading and well I will over look what I read and try anyhow lol. I am looking for a guild that pvp's and pve's together on the side of the blue ino's. I am on VE NA server on the list but do not care if I need to move to the other NA server. I want to pvp, pve, make friends and have people use me metal created goods. I would like a community based guild where everyone isn't doing every single trade. A actual useful cog in the community. Voice yes except when my wife watches tv which sometimes can be a lot lol. My name in game atm is Thalonious.